eduroam Development VC Minutes 2024-01-02 1530 CET

Attendance

Attendees

  • Stefan Winter (Restena)
  • Stefan Paetow (Jisc)
  • Tomasz Wolniewicz (PSNC)
  • Ed Kingscote (CANARIE)
  • Zbigniew Ołtuszyk (PSNC)
  • Maja Górecka-Wolniewicz (PSNC)
  • Chris Phillips (CANARIE)
  • Halil Adem (GRNET)
  • Zenon Mousmoulas (GRNET)
  • Ed Wincott (Jisc)

Regrets

  • Guy Halse (TENET)

Agenda / Proceedings

  1. Welcome / Agenda Bashing

  2. geteduroam: new Apps!

    • release on 2 Jan (thanks for not doing it just before Christmas!)
    • some translations in (Android has almost all recent translations, Apple prod version not yet)
    • time for updating user instructions etc.
    • local downloads on cat.eduroam.org need to be updated, too
    • criticism on translation sources: the source language is not always aligned/identical between the two apps
    • glossary function is now available to mitigate slightly mismatching terms
    • inst and profile names are still in English language, regardless of existence of a name variant in a language that matches the app language

2a. CAT/geteduroam vs. Microsoft InTune?

  • If using InTune, need to curate your Wi-Fi profile data there.
  • But then need to sync between two places, InTune and CAT - why?
  • There are probably(?) more devices covered in CAT than in InTune; so working just with InTune is insufficient
  • Could exclude the Wi-Fi bit from InTune management, and do all eduroam things from CAT/geteduroam.
  • Is that acceptable to typical admins?
  • Demarcation line could be along corporate (use InTune for the entire device mgmt) vs. BYOD (use CAT/geteduroam, less intrusive on BYOD devices); this seems to be a generally accepted and working messaging
  1. Add a CAT API call for all info about a federation

  2. Read-only mode for fed admins?

    • special device for dump of inst data exists ( call with ?hidden=1 and then download the “Test” device - which is a ZIP file with all data settings)
    • a more integrated approach with real read-only access in the UI to see, but not change, settings, could be useful
    • lots of support from attendees of the call
    • maybe not display the full list, but allow to search for single inst
  3. show/warn expired intermediate or root CAs in admin mode

  4. OpenRoaming + anonymous outers

    • OR settlement-free is looking into the privacy implications (returning CUI and/or Class) and anonymous outer
    • CAT should also take into account the above
    • problematic spot is if CAT settings enable OpenRoaming, but no anon outer ID is set; this would expose the actual username
    • ideally, enforce that anon outer ID is set when IdP wants to enable OpenRoaming support
    • issue on GitHub to be opened by StefanP
    • ChrisP: @stefanP: anonymous123456@realm.tld is one we’re using - and should be a valid one…
  5. AOB / next VC

    • 16 Jan 2024, 1530 CET
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