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Date

Attendees

  • Albert Hankel (SURFNET)

  • Ivana Golub (CARNET)

  • Ivan (CARNET)

  • Filip Harapin (CARNET)

  • Silvia d'Ambrosio (GARR)

  • Nino Ciurleo (GARR)

  • Evangelos Spatharas (GEANT)

  • Tomáš Čejka (CESNET)

  • Václav Bartoš (CESNET)

  • David Schmitz (DFN/LRZ)

Goals

  • Introduction of idea of the WG and people (for those being new)

  • Current Problems, Experiences, Approaches, Ideas regarding DDoS D/M (detection/mitigation)

  • AOB

Discussion items

TimeItemWhoNotes
Introduction 
 Presentation by Silvia/Nino (GARR) 

https://wiki.geant.org/download/attachments/59249476/JRA2T6%20DDoS%20WG%20GARR%20proposal.pptx?api=v2

  • different types of DDOS atttacks
  • ->different methods for detection as well as mitigation exist/necessary
  • ->proposal: in general: multi-layered approach for DDoS D/M
  • -> conduct survey to find out about any experience/plans for DDOS detection/mitigation in other NRENs
 Draft Proposal of Survey for collecting info about current DDoS D/M (GARR) http://goo.gl/forms/9L15afbt9Th4vG2E3
 Discussion about enhancing the survey proposal 

enhancement proposals:

• Ivana: add question about Organization/NREN filling the survey

• Ivana: add question(s) about willingness to cooperate with other NRENs/GEANT/willingnew to integrate own solution with GEANT DDoS D/M platform (in future)

• Vaclav: more clearly separate questions for detection and mitigation, or at least make text more clear that it should cover both areas; in general: really ensure each question text is clear

 

Evangelos: plan to conduct a similar survey concerning  survey DDoS D/M in GEANT (also in cooperation with JRA2-T6), regarding e.g.

  • FOD,
  • potential scrubbing center solution (e.g. ATEN) in GEANT: would it be useful for NRENs?

-> idea combine GEANT with the proposal from GARR

-> Actions:

• Everyone interested: edit/enhance survey if having any ideas

• Try to Find out about more secure tool to conduct that survey (Evangelos will ask Tryfon about that)

• Find out about suitable way(s) to spread survey: e.g GN showcase, VCs, APM/SIGNOC meetings,  (Evangelos will ask Tryfon about that)

 

 

Info about Planned Worshop by ATEN (Evangelos)

 Workshop with ATEN at Cambridge planned (about >= mid of Aug): potential deployment scenarios for ATEN solution in GEANT
 Info about hardware cards for scrubbing solution developed currently by CESNET (Tomas) 
  • CESNET: own hardware card solution (also in cooperation with flowmon) being under development:
  • 1st milestone planned this summer
  • planned to be used in CESNET for protecting universities against attacks from GN/NRENs/other upstream
  •  -> idea: later-on also test this inside GEANT, other NRENs
  • Tomas will continue to tell news about it
 Next VC 

short-term: use next regular T6 task VC (27.07.2016, 14:00 CEST) to discuss survey status/plans (with available people)

long-term: DS create new foodle

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