2024-03-27 T7 Weekly Meeting

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Attendees

• Christoph Graf 
• Niels van Dijk 
• Wolfgang Pempe 

Apologies

• Esther Ruiz Ben 
• Amineh Akhavan Saraf 

Goals

• get synced and issues resolved to keep us on track

Discussion items

• Status update on individual work items
• Lightning talk decision still pending
• Physical meeting at KIT in Karlsruhe (11.-12.4.2024 noon to noon)
  
  • Check the current state of the meeting page
  • travel arrangements done?
• Feedback to EC review
  • great presentation by Marina and Maarten!
  • feedback was great, questions were mainly around business models, but it showed that the one of InAcademia was not yet understood properly by the reviewers
• Risk assessment and opportunities, efficiency gains:
  • Cost and efficiency gain for the diploma use case, the Dutch have done some assessment with calculations on societal benefits (diploma handling in admission and mobility processes)
  • The wallets - in comparison with our interfederation set-up - will allow to move SP effort from N*M to N+M (N # of services, M # number of federations)
    • we assume legal cost (contracts service with federation etc.) outweigh the technical cost (service to federation)by far
    • This is an interesting opportunity offered to our community by going "wallet"
  • big gain for IdP operators (applicable for hub-n-spoke federations and IdPs of type eduID-type) is, that you can disentangle the often mixed-source attribute collections into source-specific credentials:
    • This helps to reduce the legal exposure by properly limiting the "controller" role to credentials you contribute authoritatively, while relying others as "processor".
• Feedback from DC4EU:
  • apparently lots of discussion (potentially getting out of hand) on the future role of EBSI: the one and only vs. one among many
    • we believe the "one among many" will prevail - simply because we expect many member states to establish their own trust registry services. 
  • we anticipate a heterogeneous future with many ecosystems out there not fitting the "EBSI top-down model" - and our R&E identity interfederation is exactly one such ecosystem. And other ecosystems might choose to publish their own trust roots elsewhere for other reasons. Wallets will need capabilities to cope with that.
• Feedback from EBSI Wave 3:
  • Christoph, Klaas and Christos are following up with EBSI on getting a trust anchor installed in the EBSI registry (nicely linking to the point above)
  • And trying to link Switch under this root would be a nice story to tell about crossing EU borders.

Upcoming events:

• EC GN5-1 project review: 25 March 2024
• T7 physical meeting, 11.-12.4.2024, KIT, Karlsruhe
• EIC 2024, 4-7 June 2024, Munich DE
• TNC24, 10-14 June 2024, Rennes FR (early bird fee expires 1 April)
• DICE Europe, 18-20 June 2024, Zürich CH

AoB

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Action items

Backlog

• Review existing services to identify opportunities and challenges to adopt the distributed technologies paradigm. Grab existing results as a start
• Gather previous work done by the NRENs/universities on using SSI technologies, as well as other sectors. Crowd-source among ourselves