Attendees - 26
Chris Atherton (GÉANT)
Sylvia Kuijpers (Surf)
Guido Aben (AARNet)
Alex Moura (RNP)
Alex Reid (University Western Australia)
Claudio Chacon (CEDIA)
David Salmon (Jisc)
Edward Moynihan (Indiana University)
Fernand De Decker (Belnet)
Helen Clare (Jisc)
Juraj Bilic (CARNET)
John Hicks (Internet2)
Ken Miller (ESnet)
Koen Schelkens (Belnet)
Lars Fisher (NORDUNet)
Olga Popcova (RENAM)
Shirley Wood (Jisc)
Tania Altmirano (RedClara)
Tim Chown (Jisc)
Victoria Moody (Jisc)
Meoli Kashorda (KENET)
Alexei Belotserkovsky (BASNET)
Andrew Wiedlea (ESnet)
Peter Bogatencov (RENAM)
Yousef Torman (ASREN)
Juan Pablo Carvallo (CEIDA)
Date
Wednesday 28th October 2020 15:00 - 16:00 UTC
IntroRe-cap
We have had a very interesting talk from Sylvia Kuijpers from Surf, about the merging of NRENs her NREN with other national e-infrastructures and the role of that research engagement and the enlighten your research programme played in this merger process.
Following the presentation there will be a Q&A session followed by an open community discussion.
Also, in order to fit more into the 1 hour time slot, we are inviting you, your NRENs or organisations to submit a 5 minute video about the research engagement activities or any other updates you would like to promote to the TF-RED community. We will make these available to everyone via the wiki. Please could you submit these by Monday 26th of October in time for people to see them before the meeting. We also will make all video’s available after the meeting.
Agenda:
Some of the lessons learned from the enlighten your research programme were:
- Researchers are not ICT project managers
- Most of their work is in the local domain
- Bringing together researchers and their ICT departments is beneficial
- Tuning between network and higher layers at end sites is necessary
- Commitment is essential from all involved domains (NRENs, regional networks, campus, computing centres, etc.)
One aspect which this presentation highlighted was that the outreach process the enlighten your research programme employed. These were all developed in parallel:
- Awareness building with stakeholders
- Community building activities
- Strategic alignment with funding bodies
With the last point, having the weight of the community of researchers and other e-infras all working together towards a common purpose, made talking to the funding bodies easier (although the discussions had begun with the funding body many years earlier). This resulted (after much dialogue) in a change to the funding of IT budgets in research projects in the Netherlands, to take away the requirement to only invest in new IT equipment. This old requirement was preventing researchers from fully utilising NREN infrastructure (or any other national e-infrastructure) in their research grants.
The enlighten your research programme helped to bring about in a more formalised collaboration between the various national e-infras, called Support 4 research. This was a single point of contact and coordination service, supported by the 4 national e-infras and operated all year around (EYR runs normally only every other year). Following the long term collaboration between the different elements of the surf family in this programme, members (R&E institutions) highlighted that there were challenges to work with the various national e-infrastructures. The members urged the organisations to improve the situation. They were not satisfied and so the members asked for the organisations to merge into one. That process started in 2018 and completed this year (15th October 2020).
Agenda:
- IntroductionBrief updates from TF-RED steering committee
- Talk: The merging of NRENs and the role of research engagement - Sylvia Kuijpers (SURF) - TF-RED_201028_EYR_S4R_SURFmerger.pdf
- Q&A session
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CEDIA Update: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XalZv_dsPjN_-1lekDhLxO4Bv6ahUbdb/view?usp=sharing
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